If I remember right the ten men taking hold of the hem of a "Jew" (remnant of spiritual Jews) are the "Great Crowd of other sheep". I don't think any number was meant literal or expanded on. Its been too long to speak dogmatically. That's what I mean, 144,000 literal, 10 men symbolic. You pick. Could be a tough thing to do.
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Whatever happened to these prophecys . Zech. 8:23 / Isa..60 :22 .Do they ever refer to it now ?
by smiddy inzech.
"this is what jehovah of armies has said...."it will be in those days that ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold ,yes they will actually take hold of the skirt of a man who is a jew saying:"we will go with you people,for we have heard that god is with you people ".. this was a scripture that was presented to me, that i was fullfilling bible prophecy , when i first became interested in jw`s and of course all other studies,baptisms that were occuring at that time .and the clincher of course was,.
isa.60:22 the little one himself will become a thousand and the small one a mighty nation.i myself jehovah,shall speed it up in it`s own time .. and i`m talking now about the early 1960`s.
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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?
by cofty inif you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.
just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.
it would be good to show that this is not the case..
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I accept MasterCard and Visa actually.
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After being in the so-called "Truth" makes me despise all religions.
by Fader812 inafter being a jw made me lose trust in religion, from the lies, hypocrisy and greed of this organization made me lose faith completely.
what does one do after this mind f$%@, what is there to look forward to?
do i make up my own agnostic theory in head and hope for the best?
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The fact that you have to ask, shows the old mindset of having some sage to give you the answer is still present. Yes, make up your own theory. My thinking is, if there is a God he's an ass for not making himself known directly rather than setting up all these charlatans to me or other sincere ones. I lost respect for Him, (if he's there, and I don't believe he is), as much as I have in men who say they represent him. But, please don't take my word for it. Get your own dogma! lol -
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July 7, 2017 Re: Needs in the Field—Training Others
by wifibandit injuly 7, 2017 to all field missionaries, special pioneers, temporary special pioneers and regular pioneers re: needs in the field—training others.
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I was a pioneer elder. I tried to assist but they never showed up for service. I couldn't get any time in tracking down the slackers. I discontinued the program before headquarters got around to it. I was such a stellar example. Too funny. (I was the Service Overseer by the way.)
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My Introduction
by Ray Frankz inthis is my first post and i'm feeling like i'm doing something bad big time!
i know on my mind it isn't, but the feelings are less manageable.. well, since i'm still a jw it's better not to give too much info, but i'm from brazil.. i've grown-up in the religion and practicly all my family, my closest friends and my girlfriend are loyal jws.
i used to be a regular pioneer but i still have a service privilege on my congregation.. i've had questions about the teachings of the wt since i was 10, but naturally i always pushed it away as it were "questioning the holy organization".. i started a friendship with some people in a course i took and we talked about a lot of subjects.
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RayFrankz, Thanks for posting. "I defended the JWs every time, but sometimes I had to be dishonest to them..." Once you accept that the one you were being dishonest with was yourself you will see things differently I'm sure. It took courage to post and in my experience, if you posted here and aren't interested in trolling, and I am convinced you are NOT a troll, you are on your way and I am happy for you. Any questions? We are here for you.
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Thought Bubbles Then & Now
by steve2 inmy thought bubble in the 1980s:.
"how can i engage with worldly people when they are just not interested in discussing these important topics as featured in the watchtower and awake?.
my thought bubble in the 2010s:.
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My thought bubble in the 1980s:
How can I listen to "Supertramp" when it makes Jehovah unhappy?
My thought bubble in the 2010's:
WTF ?
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Went to a Different Kind of Convention This Year
by Saethydd inmy old congregation's regional convention was the week before last, and for the first time in 20 years, i wasn't there.
instead on the very same weekend, i went to a geeky fan convention called magic city con.
i had loads of fun there, i cosplayed as a jedi and the doctor (which is my current profile pic).
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and to that I say, Allons-y! (Don't you love David Tenant?)
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I am looking at back surgery any thoughts on should I or not?
by Still Totally ADD inback in march i fell and injured my back at work.
my back has been a problem for many years but certain exercise has able me to function normally through the years.
now i walk bent over with a cane and cannot walk very far, stand, or sit in a straight back chair.
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Wasanelder Once
Good advice all around. So many suffer from back pain. I have degenerative disc disease, not uncommon for people in their late 50's early 60's. I am not on meds but I suffer if I lift or over do it. All I have to offer is similar life experience. I would say at least 75 percent of the people I know regret back surgery. Do not be shy on asserting your rights to information from the Doctor and ALWAYS GET A SECOND OPINION FROM A DOCTOR WHO DOES NOT KNOW YOUR FIRST DOCTOR. All the best.
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North Korea viral video and JW Comparison.
by pleaseresearch ini watched this video yesterday from this brave young north korean woman.
hearing her share her experiences living in her country and what the people go through on a day to day basis is so very similar to jws today and how we lived.. please watch and tell me your thoughts.. thank you.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85ijj3insyk.
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False equivalency for sure as far as seriousness. Poor baby. Being born into a cult, whether of a doctrine (ie: Governing Body worship) or a dictator worshiping state, is tragic.
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Cross-dressing Jehovah's Witness raped and molested girl
by cobweb inhttp://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/cross-dressing-jehovahs-witness-raped-13311020.
a cross-dressing jehovah’s witness raped and molested a girl while making her wear adult women’s clothes.. david fuge, 69, wore dresses and silky underwear when he repeatedly abused his blindfolded victim from the age of eight to 19.. .
liverpool crown court heard he gagged her and on one occasion tied a belt around her neck and left her hanging from a hook in a room.. he photographed the child naked, made her read pornographic magazines, beat her with a piece of wood and abused her at a golf course.. .
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Wasanelder Once
I would imagine he wasn't able to dress as nice for court as he would have liked.